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		<title>By: Snapshots From an Uncertain Voyage &#171; d&#8217;Arte Board</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snapshots From an Uncertain Voyage &#171; d&#8217;Arte Board]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] tape from the dropcloth posted last week. I think I ended up with 7 or 8 of these [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tape from the dropcloth posted last week. I think I ended up with 7 or 8 of these [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jdhastings</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7040</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the reason I like longer projects is because, while I am capable of doing some things quickly, that quickness leads my mind to valuing them less.  I don&#039;t do this with the work of other people, where I often envy their ability to do things quick.  But when I&#039;m working the fact that something requires forethought and extended execution makes my brain take it more seriously.  

If I do something in a night then move on, it may not even register in my long term memory.  If I work on something for 6 weeks, it&#039;ll lodge in there and become more of a relationship.  As a result I treat it with more respect and concern than I otherwise might.  (Not that it becomes so overly precious that I can&#039;t make hard decisions regarding it, but where I care enough to invest time, though t and energy into getting something out of it)

The time is almost an end unto itself and isn&#039;t about perfectionism or obssessiveness (though those can play a role), it&#039;s just that time helps me connect to what I&#039;m doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the reason I like longer projects is because, while I am capable of doing some things quickly, that quickness leads my mind to valuing them less.  I don&#8217;t do this with the work of other people, where I often envy their ability to do things quick.  But when I&#8217;m working the fact that something requires forethought and extended execution makes my brain take it more seriously.  </p>
<p>If I do something in a night then move on, it may not even register in my long term memory.  If I work on something for 6 weeks, it&#8217;ll lodge in there and become more of a relationship.  As a result I treat it with more respect and concern than I otherwise might.  (Not that it becomes so overly precious that I can&#8217;t make hard decisions regarding it, but where I care enough to invest time, though t and energy into getting something out of it)</p>
<p>The time is almost an end unto itself and isn&#8217;t about perfectionism or obssessiveness (though those can play a role), it&#8217;s just that time helps me connect to what I&#8217;m doing.</p>
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		<title>By: jdhastings</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7039</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of this is because process posts take more planning ahead- we have to pause in the middle of doing something and remember to record that.  Whereas just finishing it then recording it is a part of the process- if one I usually wait until 11:30 Monday night to start...  I will try to do more.  Thanks as always for your input, Tarabu!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of this is because process posts take more planning ahead- we have to pause in the middle of doing something and remember to record that.  Whereas just finishing it then recording it is a part of the process- if one I usually wait until 11:30 Monday night to start&#8230;  I will try to do more.  Thanks as always for your input, Tarabu!</p>
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		<title>By: tonitiller</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7034</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think i have fucked my attention span up when it comes to making art. when i was doing self portraits it wasn&#039;t uncommon for some of them to take days, or occasionally weeks, and the day i would shoot would usually be a 10 hour day. since i have started doing the subway pieces art takes a lot less time and i still get results i like, in a way this is good because i&#039;m ridiculously busy and it means i can still make stuff, but i also feel less connected to my processes. the other sucky part is that i feel daunted by longer term labor intensive projects, which is something i used to practically fetishise because i took so much enjoyment from it. i&#039;m actually looking forward to thanksgiving weekend because i am going to lock myself in the house for a few days and force myself to try something new without distraction.

it&#039;s reassuring to know that we are all facing similar dilemmas, and i like the idea of thinking of this like a relationship, something interactive, and not like a job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think i have fucked my attention span up when it comes to making art. when i was doing self portraits it wasn&#8217;t uncommon for some of them to take days, or occasionally weeks, and the day i would shoot would usually be a 10 hour day. since i have started doing the subway pieces art takes a lot less time and i still get results i like, in a way this is good because i&#8217;m ridiculously busy and it means i can still make stuff, but i also feel less connected to my processes. the other sucky part is that i feel daunted by longer term labor intensive projects, which is something i used to practically fetishise because i took so much enjoyment from it. i&#8217;m actually looking forward to thanksgiving weekend because i am going to lock myself in the house for a few days and force myself to try something new without distraction.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s reassuring to know that we are all facing similar dilemmas, and i like the idea of thinking of this like a relationship, something interactive, and not like a job.</p>
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		<title>By: tarabu</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7033</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tarabu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite frankly, I have always found the process posts fascinating and, possibly, too few and far between.  It&#039;s refreshing to remember that not everyone does complete something new and fabulous every week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly, I have always found the process posts fascinating and, possibly, too few and far between.  It&#8217;s refreshing to remember that not everyone does complete something new and fabulous every week.</p>
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		<title>By: jdhastings</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7027</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;ve talked about this with Toni and sensed that others may have something similar going on and just decided to run with it.  

I think it&#039;s important that we remember that the blog is for the art, and not the other way around.  

And there&#039;s no reason we can&#039;t incorporate the down sides of the process in with the finished products.  Because I love art, I love the process of art, warts and all.  So it&#039;d be nice if we can find a way to incorporate that in with the rest.  The illusion that anybody can be &quot;always on&quot; doesn&#039;t do anybody much good, and maybe posting about it will help break up the ice pack a bit and remove the anxiety of having a down phase.  In m,y experience, that only contributes to extending the down phase.  

So I&#039;m resolving to be more honest about the whole thing here.  Art is more like a relationship than a job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve talked about this with Toni and sensed that others may have something similar going on and just decided to run with it.  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important that we remember that the blog is for the art, and not the other way around.  </p>
<p>And there&#8217;s no reason we can&#8217;t incorporate the down sides of the process in with the finished products.  Because I love art, I love the process of art, warts and all.  So it&#8217;d be nice if we can find a way to incorporate that in with the rest.  The illusion that anybody can be &#8220;always on&#8221; doesn&#8217;t do anybody much good, and maybe posting about it will help break up the ice pack a bit and remove the anxiety of having a down phase.  In m,y experience, that only contributes to extending the down phase.  </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m resolving to be more honest about the whole thing here.  Art is more like a relationship than a job.</p>
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		<title>By: jasongrayfineartist</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jasongrayfineartist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That last sentence is for you both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last sentence is for you both.</p>
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		<title>By: jasongrayfineartist</title>
		<link>http://darteboard.com/2009/11/17/sometimes-art-is-a-pain-in-the-ass/#comment-7025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jasongrayfineartist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ditto.  What&#039;s worse is that I often find myself looking for menial tasks or otherwise superficially distracting myself at times when I could be working.  I don&#039;t know what that&#039;s about, but lately, I&#039;ve just chalked it up to part of the process, and tried to push on.... For what it&#039;s worth, even your failed projects are totally fascinating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto.  What&#8217;s worse is that I often find myself looking for menial tasks or otherwise superficially distracting myself at times when I could be working.  I don&#8217;t know what that&#8217;s about, but lately, I&#8217;ve just chalked it up to part of the process, and tried to push on&#8230;. For what it&#8217;s worth, even your failed projects are totally fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: ssstephg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ssstephg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Hastings, reading this post was like trying on a tailor-made spandex suit, or what I imagine that would be like.  I was actually considering posting something similar this weekend!  I&#039;ve been feeling so pulled in so many different directions as far as making art goes, and the blog makes me hyper-aware of how spread thin my focus is and how much I&#039;m not finishing.  It can be a little overwhelming.  I&#039;ve had to make a concerted effort not to let it get to me.  Anyway, great post!  Somehow, it&#039;s reassuring to know I&#039;m not the only one thinking these things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Hastings, reading this post was like trying on a tailor-made spandex suit, or what I imagine that would be like.  I was actually considering posting something similar this weekend!  I&#8217;ve been feeling so pulled in so many different directions as far as making art goes, and the blog makes me hyper-aware of how spread thin my focus is and how much I&#8217;m not finishing.  It can be a little overwhelming.  I&#8217;ve had to make a concerted effort not to let it get to me.  Anyway, great post!  Somehow, it&#8217;s reassuring to know I&#8217;m not the only one thinking these things.</p>
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		<title>By: tarabu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tarabu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel just a little bit better now about the pieces in my basement that long ago went from works in progress to unfinished objects.  
Misery does love company!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel just a little bit better now about the pieces in my basement that long ago went from works in progress to unfinished objects.<br />
Misery does love company!</p>
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